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 Post subject: Re: Fracking
PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 10:43 am 

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We have fracked so much gas their is now a glut, but hey don't worry we can finish off the Columbia River, its salmon and raise the price for US gas consumption:

http://bsnorrell.blogspot.com/2013/02/l ... html#links


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 Post subject: Re: Fracking
PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 1:48 am 

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Great images on this link:
http://occupydenver.org/occupy-denver-s ... erra-club/



"In Fort Collins, CO the Poudre Canyon chapter of the Sierra Club, with support of other chapters and members across the nation, has officially asked Michael Brune, the national director of Sierra Club, to call for a nationwide ban on hydraulic fracturing. Hydraulic fracturing, or “fracking” is an oil & gas extraction technique that is toxic and potentially lethal to all life within miles of the extraction well pad.

"While Occupy Denver and the Sierra Club operate on radically different organizing principles, it is crucial to America’s future that mainstream environmental organizations like Sierra Club take strong stances against toxic oil and gas extraction methods such as hydraulic fracturing. We support any effort to hold environmental NGOs to their commitments to ecological protection, and also recognize that due to political inertia, pressure will need to be applied to these groups, both from within and from without."


“If your child’s life was in danger, would you pause to ask a politician if it is OK to save their life? What would John Muir do? It is time for Sierra Club to call for a nationwide ban on hydraulic fracturing.”


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 Post subject: Re: Fracking
PostPosted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 3:38 pm 

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More Than a Matter of Opinion: Ed Rendell’s Plea for Fracking Fails to Disclose Industry Ties

"Former Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell took to the New York Daily News op-ed page Wednesday with a message to local officials: stop worrying and learn to love fracking."

http://www.propublica.org/article/ed-re ... disclosure


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 Post subject: Re: Fracking
PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 7:02 pm 

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“Natural gas is a gangplank not a bridge- Josh responds to the President's speech”

June 26, 2013

It's amazing to watch the bully pulpit, with all the power of this president's ability to command words, focus on the greatest crisis of our generation. I applaud the President for tackling climate change in his speech today. It’s the most important issue we face. Reducing coal pollution, increasing energy efficiency, stimulating more renewable energy -- it’s about time. Especially because Dr. Hansen and other climate scientists have shown that time is running out.

However, all the good that President Obama will do with his reductions in CO2 from power plants will be undone by his embrace of fracked gas. It is clear that he does not have the right information on fracked gas. His administration has allowed the gas industry to influence far too much of this process. In March, the President called a meeting to discuss his pending climate plan. The group of 14 energy-industry leaders – nine were CEOs of energy companies – included the head of the oil & gas giant Anadarko; Southwest Gas; Edison Electric Institute; FedEx, which pushes a switch to gas vehicles; and former Colorado Gov. Bill Ritter, a longtime booster of gas.

As a result, this plan has become a wholesale endorsement of increased natural gas use in America and abroad. For all the correct emphasis on the dangers of climate change, the plan is: frack now, frack here and frack all over the world- far too much on fracking for gas (that’s what the President means by natural gas). Fracked gas isn’t a bridge fuel – it’s a gangplank.

The President’s Climate Action Plan says methane is 20 times more powerful a greenhouse gas than carbon dioxide. This is incorrect, it’s far more than that – for the first 20 years, methane is 80 to 105 times more powerful, than CO2 as a warming agent in the atmosphere. This means you need between 80 to 100 pounds of CO2 to equal the warming potential of 1 pound of methane. So even limited methane leaks from fracked wells (not to mention compressors and pipelines) can make fracked gas worse for climate than coal. And the leaks aren’t minimal or easily solvable. And methane is leaking like crazy. A series of peer reviewed studies have now put the leakage rates at between seven and 17%. Above one to three percent, the science tells us that developing fracked gas is worse than coal for the atmosphere.

Additionally there is the large problem of water contamination from drilling and fracking. A large percentage of the wells leak – as industry’s own documents and other studies show. These documents come from drilling giant Schlumberger, Archer Oil & Gas, Southwestern Energy, and the Society of Petroleum Engineers, to name just a few. A leaking well can’t be prevented, and it can’t usually be repaired thousands of feet below the earth. The great pressures under the earth, shrinkage, vibrations from nearby drilling, temperature changes – these all crack the cement that protects the well from leakage.

Coal is abhorrent. Coal production and use needs to be curtailed immediately, no new coal plants should be built and those that exist now need to be shut down. But the same is true for natural gas fired power plants. We do not want to see greenhouse gas emissions go down in the coal sector at the power plants only to rise from leaking gas in the gas fields, in the transmissions systems and the delivery systems in our major cities.

I’m glad the President is going to study methane leakage – what he will find will make fracking impossible. See Gasland Pt. II if you want to see huge clouds of methane billowing out from fracked wells. It airs on HBO July 8th.

Exporting fracked gas is even worse. It takes more energy to convert the gas to liquid for shipment, negating any greenhouse advantage even more. And meanwhile, with the high percentage of well cement that cracks and leaks, and no way to prevent it given the pressures under the earth, the President’s plan will ruin drinking water for many families without any climate advantage. What’s the sense of that?

I am glad the President is increasing energy efficiency investments. But the scale could be so much larger. We could save far more energy than we will ever produce fracking by just insulating all the buildings in America. This will create far more jobs than fracking as well, and save consumers money forever. Let’s do this instead of fracking hundreds of thousands of leaky wells in populated areas.

The President should meet with the families whose lives have been ruined by fracking, as depicted in Gasland Pt. II. He should meet with Dr. Tony Ingraffea of Cornell and other long-time oil and gas experts not currently in the pay of industry to learn the truth. We respect his sincere desire to do something about climate change. Fracking for gas will not help and it may just make the accelerate climate change beyond the current status quo.


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 Post subject: Re: Fracking
PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 7:05 pm 

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Really good three part, 15 minute interview of Josh Fox where his new movie GASLAND 2 is discussed:

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-j ... view-pt--1


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 Post subject: Re: Fracking
PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 2:38 pm 

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I have watched Josh Fox's new movie GasLand 2 and this is but one of the iconic images from the movie. However, Josh did not have much to say when one person pointed out that americans and canadians have been ripping off natural resources from the indigenous and polluting their lands since we've been here, but suddenly when middle class white neighborhoods are affected the howls of indignation arise and are heard. The statement was met with an awkward silence because the truth is undeniable.

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Confirmed: Fracking Triggers Quakes and Seismic Chaos

http://www.motherjones.com/blue-marble/ ... king-sites


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 Post subject: Re: Fracking
PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 3:08 pm 

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I want everyone not familiar with fracking to understand that it is NOT just a natural gas issue but also an oil issue. What they have done and are now doing in North Dakota they doing in California along what is known as the Monterrey Shale which is roughly from San Francisco to LA and through the San Joaquin part of the Great Central Valley which raises a substantial amount of the produce consumed in the US. It also has the San Andreas Fault running through the entire area. Yup, we are told we are the next Saudi Arabia.


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