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 Post subject: Fracking
PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 9:40 pm 

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A place to post about all fracking things...more to come...please share especially if you live on the rez and would like share your experiences...health concerns, a place to post ideas of how others may help...


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 Post subject: Re: Fracking
PostPosted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 2:57 pm 

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Think of what this means for the Wind River people as they deal with this stuff in their homes. Not sure how they are expected to run a fan in the winter or drink the boiled water that only concentrates the toxins they drink.

http://researchmatters.noaa.gov/news/Pa ... ilgas.aspx


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 Post subject: Re: Fracking
PostPosted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 9:31 pm 

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Hello Molly,

I thought that perhaps not all here know what fracking is and its dangers. This first link is a trailer for the movie GASLAND that has gotten world a wide conversation going. Asia, Africa, South America, Australia, Europe and of course here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZe1AeH0Qz8

The second link is the GASLAND movie site and there are various links off of it that will show your area. Notice North and South Dakota as well as Wyoming:
http://gaslandthemovie.com/map


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 Post subject: Re: Fracking
PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 12:28 pm 

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In 2010 when the movie GASLAND came out I went to the NY Times to learn more. I put the term 'fracking' in their search engine and all I got was oil and gas advertisements. Today it has multiple pages.

On this site they have 3,290 articles. When something is highlighted in blue and you click on it, and it takes you to the source of their statement. Now, on all articles concerning fracking on the left hand side is a interactive chart that allows you to put in any state and find out how many fracking wells are in each state. California only has 500 but where the gas is is my home ground:
http://www.propublica.org/article/feder ... exceptions

In the early 1960s it was reported in the local paper that this one spot had enough natural gas to supply California's needs for the next hundred years:
http://www.sacredland.org/sutter-buttes/

This is a very short youtube video that shows a more intimate view of Middle Mountain:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WO6_BraLW6k

If I fight for the Dakotas or Pennsylvania I am also fighting for my home ground.


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 Post subject: Re: Fracking
PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 5:38 pm 

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http://www.cleveland.com/business/index ... s_had.html


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 Post subject: Re: Fracking
PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 6:08 pm 

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Now known as 'the haiburton loophole':

"For more than a decade the energy industry has steadfastly argued before courts, Congress and the public that the federal law protecting drinking water should not be applied to hydraulic fracturing [2], the industrial process that is essential to extracting the nation's vast natural gas reserves. In 2005 Congress, persuaded, passed a law prohibiting such regulation."

http://www.propublica.org/article/new-g ... fracturing

http://www.propublica.org/article/why-g ... ing-debate


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 Post subject: Re: Fracking
PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 8:58 pm 

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Today: "It implies that 100 years of natural gas is a sure thing. It is not. The whole question of how much gas we have – or oil or coal, for that matter – is fraught with uncertainty. It depends on factors like price and demand and whether new technologies can be developed to get at hard-to-extract gas, and whether or not you care that we blast and drill our way through suburbs and National Parks. Chris Nelder over at Slate has a good primer on this. As Nelder points out, when you look at actual proven reserves, we have only about 11 years worth of gas. If that's true, it raises a whole lot of interesting questions about future energy investments. I mean, if T. Boone Pickens wants to invest hundreds of millions of his dollars to convert vehicles to natural gas, that’s up to him – but why invest big public dollars in a fuel that might not last much more than a decade"
Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/bl ... z1o1COXs3i



Yesterday:
"He sips his Bordeaux; his own private wine cellar once boasted more than 10,000 bottles. It's a good riff, with some truth to it. But what McClendon leaves out is the real nature of the business he's in. Fracking, it turns out, is about producing cheap energy the same way the mortgage crisis was about helping realize the dreams of middle-class homeowners. For Chesapeake, the primary profit in fracking comes not from selling the gas itself, but from buying and flipping the land that contains the gas. The company is now the largest leaseholder in the United States, owning the drilling rights to some 15 million acres – an area more than twice the size of Maryland. McClendon has financed this land grab with junk bonds and complex partnerships and future production deals, creating a highly leveraged, deeply indebted company that has more in common with Enron than ExxonMobil. As McClendon put it in a conference call with Wall Street analysts a few years ago, "I can assure you that buying leases for x and selling them for 5x or 10x is a lot more profitable than trying to produce gas at $5 or $6 per million cubic feet." Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/ne ... z1o1CvHrLr

"The problem with all sophisticated technology, of course, is that things inevitably go wrong. Last April, a Chesapeake well in Bradford County suffered a massive blowout. It was the onshore, natural gas version of what happened to BP in the Gulf two years ago: A wellhead flange failed, and toxic water gushed uncontrollably from the well for several days before workers were able to bring it under control. Seven families were evacuated from their homes as 10,000 gallons of fracking fluid spilled into surrounding pastures and streams. Pennsylvania fined the company $250,000 – the highest penalty allowed under state law."


"Turning vast stretches of Pennsylvania into a pincushion in order to ship gas to China doesn't exactly mesh with McClendon's emphasis on making America energy independent. But unless something changes, that's precisely where things are headed – on a grand scale. "In the Marcellus, the boom has just begun," says Ingraffea, the Cornell engineer. "The idea is to drill everywhere."


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 Post subject: Re: Fracking
PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 9:02 pm 

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An arrow in the quiver of those who oppose fracking. This is a 39 page PDF file that Josh Fox wrote to oil and gas industries after they attacked him and his figures:
http://abcalliance.org/wp-content/uploa ... ASLAND.pdf


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 Post subject: Re: Fracking
PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 11:43 am 

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Hau, Lostspirit,

http://appvoices.org/2012/02/21/natural ... -up-to-be/

Note the elevated blood levels of the toxic compounds of to the people exposed...

and then there is this http://plugandplay.mirocommunity.org/vi ... e-propagan *

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 Post subject: Re: Fracking
PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 5:41 pm 

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A visual of what's in the fracking 'water.'

http://www.propublica.org/special/what- ... that-water


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 Post subject: Re: Fracking
PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 9:22 pm 

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More on the chemicals
http://chej.org/category/ohiofracking/frackingpa/


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 Post subject: Re: Fracking
PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 9:29 pm 
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Have you seen this video? My water's on fire tonight-the fracking song.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=timfvNgr_Q4 Jennifer


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 Post subject: Re: Fracking
PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 6:11 am 

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Outstanding, Jennifer!!!


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 Post subject: Re: Fracking
PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 7:52 pm 

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Countries exporting LNG as of 2007:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_co ... as_exports


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 Post subject: Re: Fracking
PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 9:44 pm 

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http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/03/ ... mesticNews


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 Post subject: Re: Fracking
PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 12:38 pm 

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http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/03/ ... S420120308


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 Post subject: Re: Fracking
PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 11:50 am 

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I wonder if they will ever test all the wells in Dimrock?
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/03/ ... 3620120316


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 Post subject: Re: Fracking
PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 8:06 pm 

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Lostspirit wrote:
On this site they have 3,290 articles. When something is highlighted in blue and you click on it, and it takes you to the source of their statement. Now, on all articles concerning fracking on the left hand side is a interactive chart that allows you to put in any state and find out how many fracking wells are in each state. California only has 500 but where the gas is is my home ground:


It is truly impressive when you get your figures wrong for your own state: :lol: :lol:
http://projects.propublica.org/gas-dril ... /states/CA

However, this came out today and it is a pretty stunning look at the regulators:

"Nationwide, fracking is driving an oil and natural gas boom. Energy companies are using the procedure to extract previously unreachable fossil fuels locked within deep rock. The industry is touting the potential of fracking in California to tap the largest oil shale formation in the continental United States, containing 64% of the nation's deep-rock oil deposits."

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me ... 1157.story


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 Post subject: Re: Fracking
PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 1:31 pm 

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http://www.propublica.org/article/so-is ... e-to-drink


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 Post subject: Re: Fracking
PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 8:30 pm 

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While I realize South Dakota is a long way from Pennsylvania, it would be wise to take note of the article link below. This is amazing, unprecedented...if everything is so safe, why all the secrecy?

http://www.opednews.com/articles/FRACKI ... 8-643.html

and about drinking the water
http://appvoices.org/2012/02/21/natural ... -up-to-be/


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