well it seems the jury is still out on it, i dont think we we made from a ball of clay like the bible says nor do i think we are descended from a monkey or a ape, my best guess is we are a hybrid ape and alien
What you think and what is proven are two separate things. There is no evidence to suggest that people are anything more than people. There would be evidence if some group is mixed with something other than human. DNA always reveals ancestral origins or relatedness.
not the illegal kind but the kind that scares the shit out of some cause nobody wants to talk about them, the truth is out there,beam me up Scotty, a term used in Indian circles is Great Mystery so theoriizng can go on and on, i have read some of the Dogan lore of Africa, they have knowledge on aliens or Star People as well Hopi, i have seen them flitting around in the sky more than one time, Great Mystery to me,
Unfortunately we can't change the fact that humans came from ape. I don't doubt that ancient people would've at one point or another meet ET, but you would rather believe fantasy than reality? This theory is heaps more racist to me than suggesting we came from apes. The ancient astronaut theory basically states that minorities who were not Asian or European needed the help of aliens to achieve building their great monuments. Basically that people who aren't white or Asian are too stupid to build their own culture and civilization. If you would rather believe this hogwash rather than people simply evolving from apes then I am powerless to stop you. You keep viewing science and technology as something which is "white" or “oppressive” so you try to blind yourself from the truth. And unfortunately there is no cure for people who arbitrarily ignore facts.
if we came from a ape how come there are still apes, that theory dont hold water worth a damn to me
This isn't even a legitimate rebuttal as to why evolution isn't reasonable. In fact this is one of the worst and most frequently used reasons as to why evolution does not exist.
First and foremost humans are apes, so we are technically those apes "whole are still left" according to you. DNA is not an exact science but it is fairly accurate. We are most related to apes and share a number of similar characteristics. That is not by accident, it is because we are related.
Secondly, nothing stays stagnant. Meaning that apes that existed 4 million years ago don't exist today. In other words, we don't come from chimpanzees but we and chimpanzees share a common ancestor which lead to both human and chimp existence.
It doesn't hold water with you because you view this as some sort of western tool for conquest. Science is the exact opposite tool. It reveals what has happened and what has not happened. Science is far from perfect, but it eliminates impossibilities such as humans being half mixed with aliens, because humans are simply too incompetent to evolve and develop themselves
. It also shows what likely happened, which is far better than the speculation that religions have given us over the past 20-30 thousand years. Make no mistake, I am a spiritual person, but when spirituality becomes so dominant that it overtakes the truth then there is a serious problem with that. You would rather believe that aliens of all things came to Earth and mixed with humans rather than understanding that humans simply evolved and became better over time.
I understand that the indigenous have a horrible history with social Darwinism, that is, the practice in which societies whom deem themselves superior to other societies have the right to conquer those societies and make them extinct or assimilate them. I believe that is what most individuals in this thread are in cahoots over, and I can't say I disagree with you. However, the issue with generalizing evolution or anything for that matter is that you miss out on the complexity which took place.
Darwin and several of his close friends were appalled by how the concept of evolution was being used. He spent his life fighting against slavery and the mistreatment of natives. Darwin knew that this was wrong and argued against the mistreatment of all humans for the remainder of his life. He was never able to do much to improve this, but even Darwin himself objected to the practice of dehumanizing other humans so that another group of humans can get ahead.
And to me this is the primary issue that is being discussed in this thread. It is about the legacy of social Darwinism not evolution itself, about the horrendous treatment in which the brown and indigenous man has suffered because of the western man. And I cannot disagree with this, it was horrendous. Often in western history people develop things meant to be used for good and understanding which are often used by power hungry individuals as tools to justify destruction and brutality.
However, we must not ignore the truth in our quest for liberation. I see a bunch of moping people feeling sorry. A desire to turn inward and away from the world. I can't help but to feel sorry for people who seriously believe that they can simply ignore the rest of the world as if it has never existed. I wish individuals such as yourself well on your journeys.