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Yai- hey,

Pilamaya ye.

I know all of those -but it great to read it again.
Repeating is Mother of Learning and Remember.

I shyly will add yet:



Now that we are poor, we are free. No white man controls our footsteps.
Let us put our minds together and see what life we can make for our children.


Sitting Bull

And something white -but ..wise :


“Each second we live is a new and unique moment of the universe, a moment that will never be again.
And what do we teach our children?

We teach them that two and two make four, and that Paris is the capital of France.
When will we also teach them what they are?

We should say to each of them: Do you know what you are?
You are a marvel.
You are unique.
In all the years that have passed, there has never been another child like you.
Your legs, your arms, your clever fingers, the way you move.
You may become a Shakespeare, a Michelangelo, a Beethoven.
You have the capacity for anything.

Yes, you are a marvel.
And when you grow up, can you then harm another who is, like you, a marvel?
You must work, we must all work, to make the world worthy of its children.”


P.Picasso


A human being is a part of a whole, called by us "Universe", a part limited in time and space.
Our task must be to free ourselves from this prison by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole of nature in its beauty."

What we need is a radical change, a radically new way of life.
A way of life dedicated to, first of all, the salvation of the Planet.
Consider for a moment, the difference between the belief system of "time is money" and the way of life called "time is art".
That is a radical and instant paradigm shift!
This paradigm shift manifests as a whole new social vision, a society whose interests are the interests of the Planet itself,
a unified global community, the mind and mouthpiece of Planet Earth ...

What does it mean to be human?
What if our lives were spent beautifying our planet, cultivating ourselves and cooperating together as one unified
evolving being without borders, living as one?


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 Post subject: Re: A state of war between Crow Creek Dakotah Oyate and the US
PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 9:40 am 
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Stormsrider, my very birth made me an enemy of the united states. I have never claimed to be a citizen of the united states I am Dakotah first, last and always, that is how I was raised. I am willing to die for my People, it is not my wish but if it becomes necessary then so be it. I posted pictures of my family and those that I love because I wanted the People to understand that I have much to live for but how can I live a good life when the old ones and the young ones suffer so much. Some have forgotten who they are and where they come from and what is expected of them as Dakotah men. I have not.

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"There are but two ways for us. One leads to hunger and death, the other leads to where the poor white man lives. Beyond is the happy hunting ground where the white man cannot go."

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 Post subject: Re: A state of war between Crow Creek Dakotah Oyate and the US
PostPosted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 1:56 pm 
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"The white people, who are trying to make us over into their image, they want us to be what they call "assimilated," bringing the Indians into the mainstream and destroying our own way of life and our own cultural patterns. They believe we should be contented like those whose concept of happiness is materialistic and greedy, which is very different from our way.

We want freedom from the white man rather than to be intergrated. We don't want any part of the establishment, we want to be free to raise our children in our religion, in our ways, to be able to hunt and fish and live in peace. We don't want power, we don't want to be congressmen, or bankers....we want to be ourselves. We want to have our heritage, because we are the owners of this land and because we belong here.

The white man says, there is freedom and justice for all. We have had "freedom and justice," and that is why we have been almost exterminated. We shall not forget this."


From a speech given at the Grand Council of American Indians in 1927

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 Post subject: Re: A state of war between Crow Creek Dakotah Oyate and the US
PostPosted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 1:59 pm 
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In a speech to then Governor of the Indiana Territory, William Harrison, Tecumseh spoke the following words on August 11, 1810:


"Brother, I wish you to give me close attention, because I think you do not clearly understand. I want to speak to you about promises that the Americans have made.

You recall the time when the Jesus Indians of the Delawares lived near the Americans, and had confidence in their promises of friendship, and thought they were secure, yet the Americans murdered all the men, women, and children, even as they prayed to Jesus?

The same promises were given to the Shawnee one time. It was at Fort Finney, where some of my people were forced to make a treaty. Flags were given to my people, and they were told they were now the children of the Americans. We were told, if any white people mean to harm you, hold up these flags and you will then be safe from all danger. We did this in good faith. But what happened? Our beloved chief Moluntha stood with the American flag in front of him and that very peace treaty in his hand, but his head was chopped by a American officer, and that American officer was never punished.

Brother, after such bitter events, can you blame me for placing little confidence in the promises of Americans? That happened before the Treaty of Greenville. When they buried the tomahawk at Greenville, the Americans said they were our new fathers, not the British anymore, and would treat us well. Since that treaty, here is how the Americans have treated us well: They have killed many Shawnee, many Winnebagoes, many Miamis, many Delawares, and have taken land from them. When they killed them, no American ever was punished, not one.

It is you, the Americans, by such bad deeds, who push the red men to do mischief. You do not want unity among the tribes, and you destroy it. You try to make differences between them. We, their leaders, wish them to unite and consider their land the common property of all, but you try to keep them from this. You separate the tribes and deal with them that way, one by one, and advise them not to come into this union. Your states have set an example of forming a union among all the Fires, why should you censure the Indians for following that example?

But, brother, I mean to bring all the tribes together, in spite of you, and until I have finished, I will not go to visit your president. Maybe I will when I have finished, maybe. The reason I tell you this, you want, by making your distinctions of Indian tribes and allotting to each a particular tract of land, to set them against each other, and thus to weaken us.

You never see an Indian come, do you, and endeavor to make the white people divide up?

You are always driving the red people this way! At last you will drive them into the Great Lake, where they can neither stand nor walk.

Brother, you ought to know what you are doing to the Indians. Is it by the direction of the president you make these distinctions? It is a very bad thing, and we do not like it. Since my residence at Tippecanoe, we have tried to level all distinctions, to destroy village chiefs, by whom all such mischief is done. It is they who sell our lands to the Americans. Brother, these lands that were sold and the goods that were given for them were done by only a few. The Treaty of Fort Wayne was made through the threats of Winnemac, but in the future we are going to punish those chiefs who propose to sell the land.

The only way to stop this evil is for all the red men to unite in claiming an equal right in the land. That is how it was at first, and should be still, for the land never was divided, but was for the use of everyone. Any tribe could go to an empty land and make a home there. And if they left, another tribe could come there and make a home. No groups among us have a right to sell, even to one another, and surely not to outsiders who want all, and will not do with less.

Sell a country! Why not sell the air, the clouds, and the Great Sea, as well as the earth? Did not the Great Good Spirit make them all for the use of his children?

Brother, I was glad to hear what you told us. you said that if we could prove that the land was sold by people who had no right to sell it, you would restore it. I will prove that those who did sell did not own it. Did they have a deed? A title? No! You say those prove someone owns land. Those chiefs only spoke a claim, and so you pretended to believe their claim, only because you wanted the land. But the many tribes with me will not agree with those claims. They have never had a title to sell, and we agree this proves you could not buy it from them. If the land is not given back to us, you will see, when we return to our homes from here, how it will be settled. It will be like this:

We shall have a great council, at which all tribes will be present. We shall show to those who sold that they had no rights to the claim they set up, and we shall see what will be done to those chiefs who did sell the land to you. I am not alone in this determination, it is the determination of all the warriors and red people who listen to me. Brother, I now wish you to listen to me. If you do not wipe out that treaty, it will seem that you wish me to kill all the chiefs who sold the land! I tell you so because I am authorized by all tribes to do so! I am the head of them all! All my warriors will meet together with me in two or three moons from now. Then I will call for those chiefs who sold you this land, and we shall know what to do with them. If you do not restore the land, you will have had a hand in killing them!

I am Shawnee! I am a warrior! My forefathers were warriors. From them I took only my birth into this world. From my tribe I take nothing. I am the maker of my own destiny! And of that I might make the destiny of my red people, of our nation, as great as I conceive to in my mind, when I think of Weshemoneto, who rules this universe! I would not then have to come to Governor Harrison and ask him to tear up this treaty and wipe away the marks upon the land. No! I would say to him, 'Sir, you may return to you own country!' The being within me hears the voice of the ages, which tells me that once, always, and until lately, there were no white men on all this island, that it then belonged to the red men, children of the same parents, placed on it by the Great Good Spirit who made them, to keep it, to traverse it, to enjoy its yield, and to people it with the same race. Once they were a happy race! Now they are made miserable by the white people, who are never contented but are always coming in! You do this always, after promising not to anyone, yet you ask us to have confidence in your promises. How can we have confidence in the white people? When Jesus Christ came upon the earth, you killed him, the son of your own God, you nailed him up! You thought he was dead, but you were mistaken. And only after you thought you killed him did you worship him, and start killing those who would not worship him. What kind of a people is this for us to trust?

Now, Brother, everything I have said to you is the truth, as Weshemoneto has inspired me to speak only truth to you. I have declared myself freely to you about my intentions. And I want to know your intentions. I want to know what you are going to do about the taking of our land. I want to hear you say that you understand now, and will wipe out that pretended treaty, so that the tribes can be at peace with each other, as you pretend you want them to be. Tell me, brother. I want to know now.

Tecumseh - Shawnee

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 2:08 pm 
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"Much has been said of the want of what you term "civilization" among the Indians. Many proposals have been made to us to adopt your laws, your religion, your manners, and your customs. We do not see the propriety of such a reformation.

We should be better pleased if we could actually see the good effects of these doctrines in your own practices rather than hearing you talk about them, or reading your newspaper on such subjects.

You say, for example, "Why do not the Indians till the ground and live as we do?" May we not ask with equal propriety, "Why do not the white people hunt and live as we do?""

Old Tassel - Cherokee

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"Every part of all this soil is sacred to my people. Every hillside, every valley, every plain and grove has been hallowed by some sad or happy event in the days long vanished. The very dust you now stand on responds more willingly to their footsteps than to yours, because it is rich with the blood of our ancestors and our bare feet are conscious of the sympathetic touch.

Even the little children who lived here and rejoiced here for a brief season love these somber solitudes, and at eventide they greet shadowy returning spirits.

And when the last red man shall have perished, and the memory of my tribe shall have become a myth among the white men, these shores will swarm with the invisible dead of my tribe; and when our children's children think themselves alone in the field, the store, the shop, upon the highway, or in the silence of the pathless woods, they will not be alone.

At night when the streets of your cities and villages are silent and you think them deserted, they will throng with the returning hosts that once filled and still love this beautiful land.

The white man will never be alone.

Let him be just and deal kindly with my people, for the dead are not powerless. Dead, did I say? There is no death, only a change of worlds."

Chief Seattle - Suqwamish & Duwamish

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"The white man who is our agent is so stingy that he carries a linen rag in his pocket into which to blow his nose, for fear he might blow away something of value."

Piapot - Cree Chief

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 2:43 pm 
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"Once I was in Victoria, and saw a very large house. They told me it was a bank, and that the white men place their money there to be taken care of, and that by and by they got it back, with interest.

We are Indians, and we have no such bank; but when we have plenty of money or blankets, we give them away to other chiefs and people, and by and by they return them, with interest, and our hearts feel good. Our way of giving is our bank."

Maquinna - Nootka Chief

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 Post subject: Re: A state of war between Crow Creek Dakotah Oyate and the US
PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 1:14 pm 
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Who can say what is right or wrong for another Nation or People? Is that not why we find ourselves in the situation we are in today because another came into our land and told us what was right/wrong for us, but we knew better because that was not about right or wrong.... it was about Truth. The Truth is they came for land and they were getting it any way they could. Look at the words of all these true leaders who actually fought the good fight... the one similarity you will see in all of them is a love of the land and of their People, not just their own family and friends but for All The People in the village and that is how it should be.

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My sentiments precisely Pachoka. Well said Koda!

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 1:21 pm 
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We have heard the words of these true leaders for over 400 YEARS saying the same thing over and over again. These are the voices of our Ancestors I make no claim to speak with the spirits but if one uses his goddam (still waiting on the Dakotah translation of that word) brain he need read no further than these words to hear and understand the voices of the Ancestors AND that nothing has changed in those FOUR HUNDRED years. Dakotah children are still dying of starvation, our old ones are still dying in the cold, and the People are still suffering under a wasichu form of government that cannot and will never work for us. We have listened to the lies of brotherhood and we will do right by you. YET I still hear the voices of Dakotah children crying and see Dakotah mothers crying... the time for dialogue and feel good words is over.

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How the People came to be at Crow Creek...

http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/project ... akota.html

You the people of the united states stole Mississippi from the Dakotahs... you stole Minnesota from the Dakotahs... hell you the people of the united states even stole the Dakotahs from the Dakotahs. Now you want to steal another 11 miles of what can never belong to you... I say to you NEVER as long as this Dakotah draws breath.

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"One does not sell the land people walk on."

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"Behold, my friends, the spring is come; the earth has gladly received the embraces of the sun, and we shall soon see the results of their love! Every seed is awakened, and all animal life. It is through this mysterious power that we too have our being, and we therefore yield to our neighbors, even to our animal neighbors, the same right as ourselves to inhabit this vast land.

"Yet hear me, friends! we have now to deal with another people, small and feeble when our forefathers first met with them, but now great and overbearing. Strangely enough, they have a mind to till the soil, and the love of possessions is a disease in them. These people have made many rules that the rich may break, but the poor may not! They have a religion in which the poor worship, but the rich will not! They even take tithes of the poor and weak to support the rich and those who rule. They claim this mother of ours, the Earth, for their own use, and fence their neighbors away from her, and deface her with their buildings and their refuse. They compel her to produce out of season, and when sterile she is made to take medicine in order to produce again. All this is sacrilege.

"This nation is like a spring freshet; it overruns its banks and destroys all who are in its path. We cannot dwell side by side. Only seven years ago we made a treaty by which we were assured that the buffalo country should be left to us forever. Now they threaten to take that from us also. My brothers, shall we submit? or shall we say to them: 'First kill me, before you can take possession of my fatherland!'"

Sitting Bull - Lakotah

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Ghostwarrior did you think of sending some of this websites to CNN for them to look at .? rainbow


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if I had money then I would buy that 11miles for your people so that they dont have to take it . the US are spitefull people .rainbow


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 10:51 am 
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I have written Mr. Obama and several Senators. None wish to address the truth.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 12:00 pm 
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tmfue_pjwho

Do I need to even say anything more? Its about more than electricty and dams... What about the bodies of the Dakotah Ancestors that floated to the surface when they backfilled that entire area with water where the original village of Fort Thompson was located? When it is the voices of your relatives, your children and your People crying in the cold... then perhaps you will understand that we are human beings, human beings that Creator made. We are human beings... we are Dakotah and we will never forget our Ancestors and that they were a Nation of People and that we are a still Nation of People... Dakotah Oyate.

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Pidamya rainbow but we should not have to buy back anything. I thank you for your offer. You have a good heart.

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